WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:09.030 Gallery lordy I called members tauter the item first my first item on our 00:00:09.030 --> 00:00:12.269 agenda is questions to the First Minister the first question is from 00:00:12.269 --> 00:00:17.220 heaven David will the first minister make a statement on Welsh government 00:00:17.220 --> 00:00:21.150 funding for major infrastructure projects yes the Wales infrastructure 00:00:21.150 --> 00:00:25.230 investment plan sets up plans to invest over 6.5 billion pounds in 00:00:25.230 --> 00:00:28.470 infrastructure across Wales over the remainder of the current Assembly term 00:00:28.470 --> 00:00:31.349 that includes our flagship infrastructure projects such as 00:00:31.349 --> 00:00:36.510 investment in 20,000 affordable homes and the south Thank You First Minister 00:00:36.510 --> 00:00:41.700 in spring 2017 the cabinet secretary for finance announced well the Welsh 00:00:41.700 --> 00:00:45.780 Government's undertake intention to undertake three major infrastructure 00:00:45.780 --> 00:00:52.829 schemes using the mutual investment model for this year and according to the 00:00:52.829 --> 00:00:56.940 Welsh Government information they've combined capital value those three 00:00:56.940 --> 00:01:02.460 projects of 1 billion the Welsh government stated that the mutual 00:01:02.460 --> 00:01:08.250 investment model or mem will see private partners build and maintain public 00:01:08.250 --> 00:01:12.210 assets in return Welsh government will pay a fee to the private partner which 00:01:12.210 --> 00:01:16.229 will cover the cost of construction maintenance and financing the project 00:01:16.229 --> 00:01:21.210 and at the end of the project it will be transferred into public ownership so can 00:01:21.210 --> 00:01:24.990 I ask the First Minister would you outline the key differences between MIM 00:01:24.990 --> 00:01:32.189 and PFI and identify whether other schemes will be used using the min model 00:01:32.189 --> 00:01:37.290 in the future during this assembly term well the year difference is that min has 00:01:37.290 --> 00:01:40.229 value for money among its core objectives it won't be used to finance 00:01:40.229 --> 00:01:44.729 soft services such as cleaning and catering which led to expensive and 00:01:44.729 --> 00:01:50.369 inflexible contracts in the historic PFI model nor will it be used to finance 00:01:50.369 --> 00:01:55.770 capital equipment will invest a small amount of risk capital in each scheme 00:01:55.770 --> 00:01:59.850 ensuring the public sector participates in any return on investment so it's a 00:01:59.850 --> 00:02:04.409 different model to PF I I can say that a public interest director will be 00:02:04.409 --> 00:02:08.849 appointed by government to manage the public share holdings and to promote the 00:02:08.849 --> 00:02:11.960 public interest more widely and that course will ensure there's 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:15.770 transparency about costs and the performance of private partners no 00:02:15.770 --> 00:02:22.940 crumbs our First Minister broadband is a key part of our economic infrastructure 00:02:22.940 --> 00:02:29.360 within Wales the UK government has established the local full fiber network 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:33.340 Challenge Fund in order to bring on the next generation of digital 00:02:33.340 --> 00:02:38.150 infrastructure and to help local led projects leverage commercial investment 00:02:38.150 --> 00:02:42.170 into the full fiber future the gold standard of reliability 00:02:42.170 --> 00:02:46.190 in broadband would you join me in welcoming the news that Monmouthshire 00:02:46.190 --> 00:02:49.850 and neighboring local authorities turbine Newport as part of the city 00:02:49.850 --> 00:02:55.160 region have successfully bid in to this scheme and can you tell us how the Welsh 00:02:55.160 --> 00:02:59.180 Government's own plans for developing broadband infrastructure and Wales will 00:02:59.180 --> 00:03:04.760 dovetail into the success of the areas like Mama's shirt or vine and Southeast 00:03:04.760 --> 00:03:08.900 Wales to make sure that we capitalize on this these are the first areas of the UK 00:03:08.900 --> 00:03:11.690 to benefit from this from this new development 00:03:11.690 --> 00:03:14.690 how is Welsh government going to make the most of it well we are involved as a 00:03:14.690 --> 00:03:17.870 government with the projects that he has mentioned it builds a course on 00:03:17.870 --> 00:03:22.520 superfast Kamri which has been hugely successful in bringing broadband to many 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:26.600 communities that otherwise not be served with broadband if it was left to the 00:03:26.600 --> 00:03:30.380 Year to the market because of of their size so we look to work with the UK 00:03:30.380 --> 00:03:34.400 government to deliver the best digital outcomes for all our communities I don't 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:44.720 price interest rates and and annuity rates a debt service liability of about 00:03:44.720 --> 00:03:51.920 150 million over the course of a 30 years would an unlock about two point 00:03:51.920 --> 00:03:58.640 five five billion using this of the kind of innovative financing method like the 00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:04.400 min that the First Minister referred to do you think that represents value for 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:09.710 money and if it does shouldn't we be much more ambitious in terms of the 00:04:09.710 --> 00:04:12.860 scale of the capital investment programme 00:04:12.860 --> 00:04:17.570 to maximize this historic opportunity of low interest rates and with him on 00:04:17.570 --> 00:04:20.780 ambition but it has to be tempered of course with with prudence so I can say 00:04:20.780 --> 00:04:26.150 of course the min incorporates the best of the Scottish non distributing model 00:04:26.150 --> 00:04:30.800 optimum risk allocation whole life costing and performance related rate 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.670 based payments whilst ensuring that new investment is classified to the private 00:04:34.670 --> 00:04:37.910 sector hugely important issue cause gotta deal with this chamber on many 00:04:37.910 --> 00:04:41.270 times and it's therefore genuinely additional to investment from other 00:04:41.270 --> 00:04:46.490 public services it was a different model from PFI we will always seek to to 00:04:46.490 --> 00:04:51.169 maximize the amount of funds available through the scheme but of course we also 00:04:51.169 --> 00:04:55.540 have to bear in mind the the affordability of our ambition for world 00:04:55.540 --> 00:05:00.230 questions-- questions-- to chain bryant governments have to support technology 00:05:00.230 --> 00:05:04.850 companies in south-east wales the regrowing action plan recognizes the 00:05:04.850 --> 00:05:09.080 importance of technology to future-proof and maintain the competitiveness of our 00:05:09.080 --> 00:05:14.000 economy our calls for action with their focus on digitalization automation in an 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.900 innovation will see us foster the conditions that will enable technology 00:05:17.900 --> 00:05:21.080 businesses across wales that's right Thank You First Minister 00:05:21.080 --> 00:05:25.850 on Friday I visited innovation point to digital innovation company based in 00:05:25.850 --> 00:05:30.770 Newport that helps provide expertise knowledge and contacts to small tech 00:05:30.770 --> 00:05:35.660 firms their annual international digital festival is the biggest tech event in 00:05:35.660 --> 00:05:40.310 Wales innovation Point has attracted many companies to Wales work by 00:05:40.310 --> 00:05:44.600 businesses like these a vital in sustaining growth and establishing our 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:49.310 reputation for being at the forefront of technological developments so will the 00:05:49.310 --> 00:05:54.050 First Minister set the steps the Welsh government is taking to assist small and 00:05:54.050 --> 00:05:58.550 medium sized technology firms in Newport and the region so that we can seize the 00:05:58.550 --> 00:06:03.770 opportunities to attract more investment and ensure southeast Wales maintains its 00:06:03.770 --> 00:06:08.660 place as a digital hub well first of all of course the Cardiff Capital Region 00:06:08.660 --> 00:06:14.390 deal will help to deliver more funding for digital businesses we provided 25 00:06:14.390 --> 00:06:17.690 million pounds of the funding to the Institute for compound semiconductor 00:06:17.690 --> 00:06:21.470 technology in Cardiff with a further 38 million per investment of the Cardiff 00:06:21.470 --> 00:06:25.849 Capital Region and of course the UK's first national software Academy and new 00:06:25.849 --> 00:06:28.340 national the security academy and of course as 00:06:28.340 --> 00:06:34.280 member said innovation point in 2017 we announced we would invest 100 million 00:06:34.280 --> 00:06:37.280 pounds in a tech valleys program over ten years to support the creation of 00:06:37.280 --> 00:06:42.860 more than 1500 jobs and indeed two months ago in May the cabinet secretary 00:06:42.860 --> 00:06:46.490 confirmed we would invest an extra 25 million pounds in the tech valleys 00:06:46.490 --> 00:06:51.020 program over the next three years as part of that commitment Mohammed Oscar 00:06:51.020 --> 00:06:56.030 thank you madam please I beg of you sir I recently visited the electricity 00:06:56.030 --> 00:07:00.590 confound Asian in Newport which is an educational charity with a mission to 00:07:00.590 --> 00:07:04.810 train and mentor graduates to create next generation of high-tech companies 00:07:04.810 --> 00:07:09.680 based in Wales by providing the skills and knowledge required to run a 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:15.890 profitable technology startup it also supports businesses by challenging its 00:07:15.890 --> 00:07:20.690 graduates to solve practical problems forces directly from companies 00:07:20.690 --> 00:07:26.120 themselves well the first mister join me in congratulating dr. will Williams and 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:31.910 his team and the private benefactors who helped fund this charity alongside the 00:07:31.910 --> 00:07:36.020 West government for the fantastic work they are doing in training the next 00:07:36.020 --> 00:07:40.880 generation of entrepreneurs with the skills required to run the companies 00:07:40.880 --> 00:07:46.490 that will provide the job we need in the future in Wales yes I would join him in 00:07:46.490 --> 00:07:50.780 in that I think it's usually important that advice is given to individuals who 00:07:50.780 --> 00:07:53.720 have great ideas but who need advice as to how to run a business have to be 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:59.800 entrepreneurs and to be able to receive that advice is invaluable to them 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.920 Kristen and I can now call the party leaders to question the First Minister 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:14.030 leader of plaid comme de Leon would lead stage cancer diagnosis well I mean 00:08:14.030 --> 00:08:18.350 that's something that I would have to write the member about but we do know 00:08:18.350 --> 00:08:23.500 that as far as the targets are concerned in Wales or figures compare very well 00:08:23.500 --> 00:08:27.710 rich or poor where rural or urban man or woman comes 00:08:27.710 --> 00:08:32.660 is an indiscriminate disease yet diagnosis is anything but recent 00:08:32.660 --> 00:08:37.040 research by Macmillan shows that cancer diagnosis in this country remains a 00:08:37.040 --> 00:08:42.020 postcode lottery and our poorest communities consistently face later 00:08:42.020 --> 00:08:47.810 stage diagnosis where stage is recorded more than one in four people in Wales 00:08:47.810 --> 00:08:54.170 were diagnosed with cancer at its latest stage which is Stage four this is not 00:08:54.170 --> 00:08:58.670 only unacceptable in the context of our rates be in the worst of any country in 00:08:58.670 --> 00:09:04.730 the UK it's not acceptable full stop for some cancers the wait between first 00:09:04.730 --> 00:09:10.370 suspecting that something is wrong and diagnosis is the longest in Europe we 00:09:10.370 --> 00:09:13.700 all know that catching cancer early saves lives 00:09:13.700 --> 00:09:19.990 First Minister you can save lives will you commit to setting and sticking to a 00:09:19.990 --> 00:09:27.860 28-day cancer diagnosis target for all so that we can catch cancer early what 00:09:27.860 --> 00:09:31.700 medics tell me is that it can't be done for all types of cancer that sometimes 00:09:31.700 --> 00:09:35.000 it takes longer to for certain cancers to be diagnosed no she makes it at the 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:38.480 point that is hugely important for example for people to be encouraged to 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:43.640 present early and also of course for GPS to to refer people early on in the in 00:09:43.640 --> 00:09:47.300 the pathway we know the vast majority of cancer patients who will start their 00:09:47.300 --> 00:09:51.980 treatment within target times we know that the incidence of cancer continues 00:09:51.980 --> 00:09:56.990 to rise and treatment is increasing in complexity the number of referrals for 00:09:56.990 --> 00:10:00.260 suspected cancer requiring investigation has risen by more than thirty sixth I 00:10:00.260 --> 00:10:03.800 wasn't over a five-year period to around ninety six thousand referrals a year 00:10:03.800 --> 00:10:07.370 which i think is at least partial good news because it means people are being 00:10:07.370 --> 00:10:12.650 referred on more quickly we know of course that eighty five point five 00:10:12.650 --> 00:10:16.250 percent of patients newly diagnosed with cancer via the urgent suspected cancer 00:10:16.250 --> 00:10:19.910 route start the definitive treatment within the target time of sixty two days 00:10:19.910 --> 00:10:24.260 and ninety seven percent all of those diagnosed not via the urgent route 00:10:24.260 --> 00:10:28.340 started definitive treatment in their target time of thirty-one days so you're 00:10:28.340 --> 00:10:32.960 talking about treatment and I'm asking you about diagnosis Cancer Research UK 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:38.240 as champion debt clinicians are calling for it England is doing it and yet First 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:40.839 Minister you continue to argue with the experts you 00:10:40.839 --> 00:10:46.060 deject 28-day targets not for the good of patients but for the good of your own 00:10:46.060 --> 00:10:50.649 public relations you won't hit those targets and you won't meet those 00:10:50.649 --> 00:10:55.510 patients needs First Minister the evidence is clear people in poorer areas 00:10:55.510 --> 00:11:01.510 are diagnosed later McMillan's data shows Stage four diagnosis in our 00:11:01.510 --> 00:11:06.639 poorest areas is up to nine percent higher compared to their wealthier 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:12.820 neighbors you can't afford to be poor and ill in Labor's Wales an information 00:11:12.820 --> 00:11:20.440 campaign already read and readily access to GPS anti ignosi services could turn 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:26.050 this around so will you commit to creating accessible cancer diagnosis 00:11:26.050 --> 00:11:31.720 services in all parts of Wales so that whether you are rich or poor your cancer 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:37.570 diagnosis is not left too late well I mean as somebody who is married somebody 00:11:37.570 --> 00:11:40.839 works for Macmillan I'm lobbied on a daily basis in terms of 00:11:40.839 --> 00:11:45.279 the way cancer is dealt with in Wales and I can say there is no clinical 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:49.510 evidence at all it's just a 28-day tag it was I come from where is the clinical 00:11:49.510 --> 00:11:53.440 evidence to say that 28 days is some kind of golden figure politicians love 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:57.670 these figures but in reality I don't I don't see any clinical evidence for it 00:11:57.670 --> 00:12:01.390 there are the issues well there's no point shifting you guys the question you 00:12:01.390 --> 00:12:06.010 know answer the question for you know part of the problem is a reluctance in 00:12:06.010 --> 00:12:10.480 some areas for people to come forward early and that doesn't help we need to 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:14.680 make sure that all GPS are referring as quickly as possible because access to 00:12:14.680 --> 00:12:17.860 treatment is the same for everyone it's simply a question of encouraging people 00:12:17.860 --> 00:12:22.540 to come forward as early as possible and for GPS to refer as quickly as possible 00:12:22.540 --> 00:12:26.170 and that is something that is hugely important in terms of the campaigns that 00:12:26.170 --> 00:12:30.220 we've run in terms of raising awareness of different types of cancer because we 00:12:30.220 --> 00:12:34.180 know if people are asked to check their symptoms they are more likely to present 00:12:34.180 --> 00:12:38.860 early and that's the way to make sure that more people not just our curative 00:12:38.860 --> 00:12:43.420 cancer but they live with cancer making sure that people are aware of the 00:12:43.420 --> 00:12:46.389 different types of cancers and their symptoms and the work that that 00:12:46.389 --> 00:12:50.410 Macmillan does is exactly that part of their work is to raise awareness of 00:12:50.410 --> 00:12:54.910 different cancers provide evidence to be they will be at the Royal Welsh Oh one 00:12:54.910 --> 00:12:59.079 of the themes they've had of the Royal Welsh Oh is they have dealt with skin 00:12:59.079 --> 00:13:02.439 cancer melanoma especially whether the show that's held in the summer and they 00:13:02.439 --> 00:13:06.790 they focus very very strongly on people identifying cancer to an early stage 00:13:06.790 --> 00:13:10.869 themselves or what may be the symptoms of cancer so they can present so then of 00:13:10.869 --> 00:13:17.619 course they can have a better outcome on behalf of the opposition Paul Davis the 00:13:17.619 --> 00:13:21.639 report published by independent examiner Donna Ockendon last week provided a 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:26.230 frightening picture of the delivery of services in North Wales the damning 00:13:26.230 --> 00:13:29.170 report showed that leadership at the Health Board has been wholly 00:13:29.170 --> 00:13:34.720 inappropriate and significantly flawed since its creation and that mental 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:39.009 health services are chronically understaffed at a time when patient 00:13:39.009 --> 00:13:41.079 numbers and our keyword she was increasing 00:13:41.079 --> 00:13:44.139 First Minister are you ashamed of your government's management of Betsi 00:13:44.139 --> 00:13:47.619 Cadwaladr University Health Board well there will be a statement on this 00:13:47.619 --> 00:13:51.759 further on on the agenda this afternoon what I can say is of course this is a 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:57.069 difficult report the reported high líderes of progress in the presentation 00:13:57.069 --> 00:14:00.970 of the board last week BC who now has a different executive leadership team in 00:14:00.970 --> 00:14:05.499 place this is 2016 a new chief executive 7 executives including a medical 00:14:05.499 --> 00:14:09.160 director and director of Nursing and a new director of mental health have been 00:14:09.160 --> 00:14:13.199 appointed to lead on the improvements needed a new chair will take a post 00:14:13.199 --> 00:14:17.769 shortly I know that the cabinet secretary has published a written 00:14:17.769 --> 00:14:20.860 statement he will as I say make an oral statement on the review later this 00:14:20.860 --> 00:14:25.540 afternoon and he has been clear body what he expects from the board should be 00:14:25.540 --> 00:14:29.679 ashamed the way that you actually run this health but it'll be three years ago 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.739 this summer that the Welsh government put Betsi Cadwaladr health but in 00:14:32.739 --> 00:14:37.329 special measures and the Occident report has shown that over that period progress 00:14:37.329 --> 00:14:42.249 has been slow and significant improvements have yet to be made lessons 00:14:42.249 --> 00:14:46.929 simply haven't been learnt and people in North Wales will rightly feel anger and 00:14:46.929 --> 00:14:51.040 outrage at the lack of progress over the past three years in addressing these 00:14:51.040 --> 00:14:55.989 serious failings this is a Health Board there is only 8 years old and has been 00:14:55.989 --> 00:14:59.559 in special measures four or three of those years 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:03.820 it's your government's responsibility to run this health board you were 00:15:03.820 --> 00:15:08.560 your cabinet secretaries are comfortable to you for the delivery of health 00:15:08.560 --> 00:15:13.240 services in Wales what are you doing to make sure that he sorts this mess out 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:17.410 and how are you you performance managing the health secretary to make sure he 00:15:17.410 --> 00:15:22.060 improves Betsi Cadwaladr Health Board you clearly have no targets for 00:15:22.060 --> 00:15:25.980 improving the health board have you set any targets for your health secretary 00:15:25.980 --> 00:15:30.790 well I can say that Donnell Caden was commissioned by BECU in 2015 to review 00:15:30.790 --> 00:15:36.220 the governance arrangements relating to the care of patients in pain Betsi 00:15:36.220 --> 00:15:39.880 Cadwaladr she presented her findings to the board in the 12th of July report 00:15:39.880 --> 00:15:45.490 runs to her 500 pages with the executive summary alone running 250 pages I wonder 00:15:45.490 --> 00:15:49.330 if he's read that report the findings are consistent with previous reports in 00:15:49.330 --> 00:15:52.030 many cases a summary of previously since 2009 00:15:52.030 --> 00:15:56.920 now what's hugely important now that we have that report it we can now build on 00:15:56.920 --> 00:16:01.600 that report as the cabinet century will outline this afternoon and know that we 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:07.840 know what the challenges are meet those challenges failed when it comes to Betsi 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.650 Cadwaladr University Health Board the Welsh Government's record of delivering 00:16:11.650 --> 00:16:16.480 health services in North Wales speaks for itself let me give you some examples 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:20.620 First Minister 93 year-old Margaret Megan Evans waited on a concrete path 00:16:20.620 --> 00:16:24.970 for more than three hours after falling and breaking her hip and then was not 00:16:24.970 --> 00:16:30.040 seen by an emergency department doctor until almost 11 hours after help was 00:16:30.040 --> 00:16:34.930 initially summoned 46 year-old Esther wood waited five hours in an ambulance 00:16:34.930 --> 00:16:40.690 before being admitted to hospital where she then died 78 year-old Neville Welton 00:16:40.690 --> 00:16:44.860 passed away following a delay in treatment because of capacity staffing 00:16:44.860 --> 00:16:50.290 administration errors and patient flow problems First Minister these are real 00:16:50.290 --> 00:16:54.610 people warnings that lives remain at risk have been issued by the coroner's 00:16:54.610 --> 00:16:58.780 office following deaths in hospitals and in the past 12 months the Health Board 00:16:58.780 --> 00:17:03.580 received 294 new claims for either personal injury or clinical or medical 00:17:03.580 --> 00:17:09.580 negligence there's clearly a culture of deny defend and dismiss at the heart of 00:17:09.580 --> 00:17:12.010 Betsi Cadwaladr health board and your government 00:17:12.010 --> 00:17:16.410 First Minister when will your government take responsibility for the catalogue 00:17:16.410 --> 00:17:21.300 failures in care at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board since it has 00:17:21.300 --> 00:17:25.140 been in special measures and will you now apologize to the people of North 00:17:25.140 --> 00:17:29.910 Wales for the shambles of a system that your government has presided over and 00:17:29.910 --> 00:17:37.050 for the lack of accountability in handling these services yeah well this 00:17:37.050 --> 00:17:39.960 contrast doesn't it were the way his party approaches things in England where 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:47.820 if there is an issue like gospel it's always the party it's always I know is 00:17:47.820 --> 00:17:54.210 the leadership contest top seed like the question when all these things are 00:17:54.210 --> 00:17:58.560 brushed off towards the health course is never the fault of the UK government we 00:17:58.560 --> 00:18:03.990 take responsibility for what happens we take responsibility for what happens in 00:18:03.990 --> 00:18:08.880 Betsi Cadwaladr because it is in special measures and it is the report that we 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:13.440 will use in order to create that improvement we are diverting and putting 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:17.430 resources into Health as best we can despite the austerity despite the 00:18:17.430 --> 00:18:22.020 austerity well they can normal despite the austerity that has been put in place 00:18:22.020 --> 00:18:29.910 by his party if he stood up and demanded the same for Wales as his party's given 00:18:29.910 --> 00:18:34.350 to Northern Ireland to Northern Ireland he would have more credibility in the 00:18:34.350 --> 00:18:39.180 arguments that he puts forward as I say the cabinet secretary will make a 00:18:39.180 --> 00:18:43.470 statement on this this afternoon it's time he and his party apologized for 00:18:43.470 --> 00:18:49.260 fleecing the people of Wales or the past eight years leader of the u-clip group 00:18:49.260 --> 00:18:54.450 Caroline Jones mr. Kirwin Auditor General for Wales has been highly 00:18:54.450 --> 00:19:00.720 critical hello Caroline Jones to ask the question Caroline Jones do heareth First 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:04.110 Minister the out to go in order to General for Wales has been highly 00:19:04.110 --> 00:19:09.270 critical of the Welsh public sectors inability to adapt to reduce budgets in 00:19:09.270 --> 00:19:11.610 evidence Sam to the Public Accounts Committee 00:19:11.610 --> 00:19:15.990 Yvonne Thomas said that the public services could be reforming for the 00:19:15.990 --> 00:19:21.660 better but their only response to austerity has been cutting costs and he 00:19:21.660 --> 00:19:26.640 also said that he was frustrated that devolution hasn't led to a fundamental 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:32.049 rethink on how we deliver public in Wales the reality is that regardless 00:19:32.049 --> 00:19:36.879 of whomever is empowering Westminster we will not see massive increases in 00:19:36.879 --> 00:19:42.220 public so it public spending because the UK is now nearly two trillion pounds in 00:19:42.220 --> 00:19:48.190 debt which equates to around 85 percent of GDP we can't borrow our way out of 00:19:48.190 --> 00:19:53.619 this mess so we have to spend smarter so First Minister do you agree with the 00:19:53.619 --> 00:19:59.460 outgoing Auditor General that we need a radical rethink for public services 00:19:59.460 --> 00:20:04.450 well we always look to to put in place the best system of public services that 00:20:04.450 --> 00:20:10.389 that we can for example we took three most common sponsored bodies than the 00:20:10.389 --> 00:20:16.149 one nrw we reduced the number of bodies delivering we reduced the number of 00:20:16.149 --> 00:20:20.859 bodies delivering health to make sure that there were fewer organisations that 00:20:20.859 --> 00:20:25.330 people have to be in contact with but the reality is this we have protected 00:20:25.330 --> 00:20:28.029 the Welsh public services budget local government in Wales is far better 00:20:28.029 --> 00:20:30.850 financing is the case in England we haven't seen the destruction of social 00:20:30.850 --> 00:20:34.960 services that is happening under Tory government in in England we have put 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:37.509 resources into social care and also into health 00:20:37.509 --> 00:20:41.169 we've also of course put resources into education we have seen the cat in 00:20:41.169 --> 00:20:45.299 education funding that we saw in England last week where schools have been 00:20:45.299 --> 00:20:49.989 starved of money by a conservative going why is this relevant because if they 00:20:49.989 --> 00:20:53.470 were in charge they would do exactly the same in words exactly the same in Wales 00:20:53.470 --> 00:20:58.450 we have fought against the austerity but the Welsh conservatives have greeted in 00:20:58.450 --> 00:21:02.409 Wales and we know what would happen to our old people to our young people to 00:21:02.409 --> 00:21:06.609 schools the hospitals to social services if ever God forbid they got their hands 00:21:06.609 --> 00:21:12.580 on power I agree with the former Auditor General that austerity is the biggest 00:21:12.580 --> 00:21:16.539 challenge facing public services in Wales coupled with the rising demand 00:21:16.539 --> 00:21:21.669 these services are facing incredible pressure while NHS spending has 00:21:21.669 --> 00:21:26.529 continued to rise local authority cuts are impacting upon Social Care which in 00:21:26.529 --> 00:21:31.029 turn impacts upon healthcare we spend more per head on health than they do in 00:21:31.029 --> 00:21:35.139 England yet we have to wait longer for appointments and long of her treatment 00:21:35.139 --> 00:21:39.309 so First Minister your government's long-term plan for Health and Social 00:21:39.309 --> 00:21:42.630 Care will help us prepare for future challenges 00:21:42.630 --> 00:21:47.280 what about now how do we meet the challenges of today who Vaughn Thomas 00:21:47.280 --> 00:21:52.560 said the public services in Wales need to think more radically about how 00:21:52.560 --> 00:21:57.570 services are delivered with a focus on outcomes rather than structures so First 00:21:57.570 --> 00:22:02.490 Minister is your government too focused on structures as opposed to outcomes 00:22:02.490 --> 00:22:06.240 no because example in the field of health that would mean we were looking 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:09.960 at yet another reorganisation that's not something that would be that would cause 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:14.280 stability in the in the health service it is down to resource it's down to 00:22:14.280 --> 00:22:18.000 ensuring that we can allocate as much resources we can to health and other 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:22.200 public services but it's a hugely difficult task against the background 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:26.930 backdrop of austerity that we face and what we face over the past eight years 00:22:26.930 --> 00:22:31.740 Huw Vaughn Thomas said that the Williams Commission report clearly sets out the 00:22:31.740 --> 00:22:37.230 nature of systemic problems that need to be fixed he added that he finds himself 00:22:37.230 --> 00:22:42.570 both frustrated and increasingly concerned that many clarion calls for 00:22:42.570 --> 00:22:48.660 action that Wales has heard over the last decade or so have not yet generated 00:22:48.660 --> 00:22:53.400 the tangible changes that are now urgently needed and that we have not 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:58.980 used evolution as an opportunity for fundamental rethinks so First Minister 00:22:58.980 --> 00:23:04.380 does your government lack the will to do what is necessary to drive forward 00:23:04.380 --> 00:23:09.060 change in Wales public services or do you truly believe that the change is 00:23:09.060 --> 00:23:16.140 proposed by the Williams Commission and others are unnecessary thank you I'm not 00:23:16.140 --> 00:23:19.050 sure whether it's know you could policy to back what was in the Williams 00:23:19.050 --> 00:23:22.680 Commission in terms of government reform if that is the case that that's 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:30.380 interesting but we have seen a situation in worlds what we have seen a 00:23:30.380 --> 00:23:34.620 development of consortium for example in education which is led to far better 00:23:34.620 --> 00:23:38.040 outcomes for education that was previously the case at one point we had 00:23:38.040 --> 00:23:42.780 six local authorities in special measures we had one local authority that 00:23:42.780 --> 00:23:47.310 collapse completely in in anger see we're far from acquisitions we've worked 00:23:47.310 --> 00:23:50.010 to make sure that a lot of thoughts have become more sustainable there are still 00:23:50.010 --> 00:23:54.060 challenges to make sure that happens in in the future and that is where of 00:23:54.060 --> 00:23:57.429 course it'd be interesting to hear the party's views in terms of what the 00:23:57.429 --> 00:24:00.850 structure of public services should be in the future rather than simply saying 00:24:00.850 --> 00:24:05.619 well we don't like this but what are the the views of of other parties and let's 00:24:05.619 --> 00:24:09.429 see if there is a consensus we've had the parliamentary review on on health 00:24:09.429 --> 00:24:12.220 but a consensus in terms of how public services might be structured in the 00:24:12.220 --> 00:24:18.129 future mr. 3-nil McAvoy the first minister make a statement on 00:24:18.129 --> 00:24:22.149 traffic congestion on tackling traffic congestion in South Central 00:24:22.149 --> 00:24:27.279 well the Metro obviously is one obvious example of how that is being done we 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.940 also have a pinch points program the improvements to public transport of 00:24:30.940 --> 00:24:35.460 already mentioned and supporting local authorities to address key local issues 00:24:35.460 --> 00:24:42.369 First Minister we all know that you are making traffic congestion worse in 00:24:42.369 --> 00:24:48.009 Cardiff rather than tackling it thousands of houses are being thrown up 00:24:48.009 --> 00:24:52.690 right now right now a long climb just a load for example in the west of the city 00:24:52.690 --> 00:24:59.529 where there's only a single carriage road the Metro is at some point in the 00:24:59.529 --> 00:25:03.399 future you're also planning on building and moved away when you can make a 00:25:03.399 --> 00:25:11.200 decision but that traffic will then end up in in local roads now in this region 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:15.759 in the city especially in the west along plant recent roads traffic jams already 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.059 go on for miles there is no Metro in place there is no 00:25:19.059 --> 00:25:22.779 public transport in place there's no actual plan when you speak to developers 00:25:22.779 --> 00:25:30.849 so my question is what our constituents meant to do and what advice do you have 00:25:30.849 --> 00:25:36.700 so those people stuck for hours and hours and hours in jams and I would 00:25:36.700 --> 00:25:39.940 appreciate you this time if you could just take just that little bit of care 00:25:39.940 --> 00:25:46.690 and actually address the question what are my constituents supposed to do well 00:25:46.690 --> 00:25:50.229 I expect the first of all the issue of development is a matter for college 00:25:50.229 --> 00:25:53.489 council not for the Welsh government secondly we do expect 00:25:53.489 --> 00:25:57.879 councils to put in place plans for sustainable transport on particularly 00:25:57.879 --> 00:26:01.029 for active travel and I know the intention of Cardiff council for example 00:26:01.029 --> 00:26:04.899 to look at five a cycling as superhighways was an excellent idea for 00:26:04.899 --> 00:26:12.040 the year for the city he is right to say that we cannot keep on building houses 00:26:12.040 --> 00:26:16.720 without there being an active transport plan that supports those developments we 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:20.950 can't rely on the roads in Cardiff forever and a day to take the traffic 00:26:20.950 --> 00:26:24.130 but these are matters that have to be addressed in the course of the planning 00:26:24.130 --> 00:26:27.820 process Thank You presiding officer 00:26:27.820 --> 00:26:32.020 congestion straddles the whole of South Wales central just a distance from this 00:26:32.020 --> 00:26:36.100 chamber the village of Dennis Powis exists the largest religion Wales on the 00:26:36.100 --> 00:26:39.550 one side of it berry the largest tylium Wales and the capital city towards the 00:26:39.550 --> 00:26:43.600 other side of it for some 40 years there's been a campaign to have a bypass 00:26:43.600 --> 00:26:47.680 built around the village of Dennis Paris and successive campaigns sadly have come 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:51.310 to nothing do you identify with the issues around congestion in the village 00:26:51.310 --> 00:26:54.700 of Dennis powers the blight it puts on people's lives there especially with air 00:26:54.700 --> 00:26:58.780 pollution and noise in particular where that road passes several schools primary 00:26:58.780 --> 00:27:03.460 schools I might add and will you identify this as a top priority for the 00:27:03.460 --> 00:27:06.520 Welsh government and work with the Vale of Glamorgan Council to take forward the 00:27:06.520 --> 00:27:10.030 plans that are currently being discussed well this is primarily a matter of 00:27:10.030 --> 00:27:14.140 course the varible morgan council but we did award funding of 20,000 in 2016 to 00:27:14.140 --> 00:27:18.640 17 and 80,000 in 2017 to 18 to the council towards a study looking at the 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:25.420 options to resolve traffic congestion in Dennis howís the scope of that work was 00:27:25.420 --> 00:27:29.560 extended in April 2089 understand available Morgan councilors funding 00:27:29.560 --> 00:27:33.790 additional work and then consultation on the next stage is planned for September 00:27:33.790 --> 00:27:38.670 24th of this September 2018 julimanu 00:27:41.610 --> 00:27:47.620 stations in my constituency of Cardiff north the Balfour Lant of North one of 00:27:47.620 --> 00:27:51.640 them and the other one to go in the center of a new build of the Villandry 00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.810 Cancer Centre that these will aid traffic congestion in the city of 00:27:55.810 --> 00:28:01.090 Cardiff yes I do I think it's hugely important there is no way that cardiff 00:28:01.090 --> 00:28:05.320 city centre can plan its way to out the traffic congestions of you by Roseman 00:28:05.320 --> 00:28:08.890 it's self-evident does why of course would making the investment in the the 00:28:08.890 --> 00:28:12.790 metro and what's important about the metro is it's it's extendibility 00:28:12.790 --> 00:28:17.800 but in the future new stations can be opened up with light rail to provide 00:28:17.800 --> 00:28:21.210 better alternatives than we'll have at the moment in terms of 00:28:21.210 --> 00:28:25.110 public transport Legislature whether it's buses whether it's heavy rail and 00:28:25.110 --> 00:28:30.000 of course the need to make it easier for people to cycle there's no doubt in my 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.940 mind that a substantial proportion of cyclists apart on the dedicated few who 00:28:32.940 --> 00:28:36.720 I know now some of this chamber don't feel comfortable about sharing the road 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:40.020 with with heavy vehicles so anything that can be done doing the easier for 00:28:40.020 --> 00:28:45.930 people to to cycle to to work via separate highways recycles I think is 00:28:45.930 --> 00:28:50.850 something to be welcomed Superjail question for Jane hat minister make a 00:28:50.850 --> 00:28:55.230 statement on the Welsh Government's review of gender equality yes my 00:28:55.230 --> 00:28:58.290 ambitions for the route to provide the change needed for worse to become a 00:28:58.290 --> 00:29:02.190 world leader in women's rights and gender equality I know that we do the 00:29:02.190 --> 00:29:06.360 house you simply updated members on the first phase of the review and Phase two 00:29:06.360 --> 00:29:10.920 will provide a comprehensive programme of actions to take Thank You First 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:15.180 Minister last week we had the first meeting across the party group on women 00:29:15.180 --> 00:29:19.380 supported by the women's equality network a membership network over 00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:23.700 thousand organizations and individuals working to advance the rights of women 00:29:23.700 --> 00:29:28.830 in all spheres of Welsh life the women's equality network delegation is 00:29:28.830 --> 00:29:33.270 presenting their UN Convention on the elimination of discrimination against 00:29:33.270 --> 00:29:38.610 women report the UN Committee this week asking a wide range of questions of the 00:29:38.610 --> 00:29:43.050 UK and Welsh Government's regarding gender equality will you agree to meet 00:29:43.050 --> 00:29:47.610 with the delegation to respond to their report which includes calling on the 00:29:47.610 --> 00:29:52.620 Welsh Government to formally adopt the Istanbul convention and see a seed or 00:29:52.620 --> 00:29:57.090 pursuit principles to provide internationally recognized standards to 00:29:57.090 --> 00:30:02.490 make Wales the safest place in Europe to be a woman yes it would be open to meet 00:30:02.490 --> 00:30:06.180 with a delegation to discuss the report we will of course formally respond to 00:30:06.180 --> 00:30:09.990 the report during the UN examination on the Convention on the elimination of all 00:30:09.990 --> 00:30:15.420 forms of discrimination against women in February of next year because it's just 00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:17.610 as well of course the leader of the House on a national advisors who 00:30:17.610 --> 00:30:21.750 recently attended cabinet are also involved in any meeting with Jonathan 00:30:21.750 --> 00:30:27.420 Saunders First Minister your own intentions towards honing a government 00:30:27.420 --> 00:30:31.710 of equals is sadly and bind by figures which make clear that the Welsh 00:30:31.710 --> 00:30:35.490 Government's gender hey gap for your own staff as recently 00:30:35.490 --> 00:30:40.350 increased the annual employer equality report earlier this year found that the 00:30:40.350 --> 00:30:44.190 gate pay gap between men and women working in the Welsh government had 00:30:44.190 --> 00:30:50.010 actually increased in 2017 from the previous year on average men actually 00:30:50.010 --> 00:30:56.310 earn more than women in every single pay grade from team support to senior civil 00:30:56.310 --> 00:31:02.310 service men also outnumber women in each of the three highest pay grades and the 00:31:02.310 --> 00:31:07.740 average basic full-time equivalent salary for men was more than three 00:31:07.740 --> 00:31:13.530 thousand pairs higher than for women given such a scale of iniquity and in 00:31:13.530 --> 00:31:18.090 fairness unfairness within your own government departments do you not know 00:31:18.090 --> 00:31:23.430 think that it is time to practice what you preach and to better seek to lead by 00:31:23.430 --> 00:31:28.980 example in other words first minister by getting your own house in order 00:31:28.980 --> 00:31:34.290 well the Welsh Government gender pay gap is 8 percent it is nothing to show to 00:31:34.290 --> 00:31:43.890 vote of course but it's better than the pay gap that exists in Whitehall what on 00:31:43.890 --> 00:31:50.490 earth is wrong what on earth is wrong with comparing the situation in Wales to 00:31:50.490 --> 00:31:55.820 the situation is so shameful the Conservatives in 00:31:56.080 --> 00:32:04.910 the First Minister is answering the question if we please 00:32:04.910 --> 00:32:09.860 will you allow the First Minister to continue is that so we do recognise the 00:32:09.860 --> 00:32:13.340 current position isn't good enough it's fair to say the majority of higher paid 00:32:13.340 --> 00:32:17.840 roles are currently filled by men and Welsh government is fully committed to 00:32:17.840 --> 00:32:21.950 doing everything can to reduce the pay gap women hold 40% of senior civil 00:32:21.950 --> 00:32:25.790 service posts in the Welsh government now of course the pay Arrangements a 00:32:25.790 --> 00:32:28.070 senior staff are not in the control of the Welsh government they're not 00:32:28.070 --> 00:32:31.880 devolved but there is a commitment on our part to achieving 5050 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:36.350 representation across the senior civil service by 2020 so what measures are 00:32:36.350 --> 00:32:39.710 being taken what measures are being taken to attract more women into senior 00:32:39.710 --> 00:32:43.250 posts this includes support for women who are pregnant or on maternity leave 00:32:43.250 --> 00:32:48.320 ensuring job adverts are inclusive offering development courses to women 00:32:48.320 --> 00:32:54.200 and having no all-male short lists for recruitment exercises alongside this to 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:58.340 watch government has signed up to heretics Fair Play employer benchmarking 00:32:58.340 --> 00:33:02.090 service and that will help to review existing practices and develop the 00:33:02.090 --> 00:33:08.030 action plan to further changes custom pimp cheer question five Cleophus thank 00:33:08.030 --> 00:33:11.240 you so with will the first minister make a statement that seeker Aalto University 00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:16.970 Health Board we have set out clear expectations and milestones for Betsi 00:33:16.970 --> 00:33:21.380 Cadwaladr Health Board to meet in order to drive improvements and action 00:33:21.380 --> 00:33:26.450 recommendations made in key reports during the next 18 months a new chair 00:33:26.450 --> 00:33:30.740 has been appointed and more intensive support is being put in place to 00:33:30.740 --> 00:33:35.120 accelerate improvements to benefit the population of North Wales and this is 00:33:35.120 --> 00:33:39.020 the response that I've been hearing over five years of asking this question to 00:33:39.020 --> 00:33:42.200 all intents and purposes and we've heard reference to another damning report 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:47.540 which is just being published recently and it is a beast of a Health Board that 00:33:47.540 --> 00:33:51.680 certain certainly the largest health board we have in Wales and perhaps the 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.530 biggest public body we have in was but over the last three years it has been in 00:33:54.530 --> 00:33:57.620 special measures and therefore it has been directly accountable to your 00:33:57.620 --> 00:34:03.109 government directly under the purview of your 00:34:03.109 --> 00:34:08.839 cabinet secretary and therefore the buck stops directly with your government you 00:34:08.839 --> 00:34:13.789 can't deny that but tell us how many more damning reports and how many more 00:34:13.789 --> 00:34:17.839 scandals are needed before you accept that situation as it currently exists is 00:34:17.839 --> 00:34:21.769 unsustainable and it's time for change and we now need to look again 00:34:21.769 --> 00:34:26.720 at the structures of delivering health services in North Wales don't think a 00:34:26.720 --> 00:34:29.750 change of structure will do anything but what we need a changes to ensure that 00:34:29.750 --> 00:34:33.980 action is being taken on those reports if nothing happens after the court then 00:34:33.980 --> 00:34:37.309 the criticism would be very fair in my opinion it's intrusive that we 00:34:37.309 --> 00:34:40.909 understand what the challenges are before we get to those challenges what's 00:34:40.909 --> 00:34:45.619 happening positively in Betsi Cadwaladr well there is a mental health strategy 00:34:45.619 --> 00:34:52.940 that's been developed with partners and users of service there is more of a 00:34:52.940 --> 00:34:58.880 focus on quality and experience of patients we've seen of course maternity 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:05.349 services improving and coming out of special measures we've seen a 00:35:05.349 --> 00:35:10.549 significant improvement in those who come to an end of their training 00:35:10.549 --> 00:35:17.450 we know that therapy services the right access within the target of 14 weeks so 00:35:17.450 --> 00:35:22.190 things have improved but it is true to say that there is work to be done again 00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:28.369 it's crucial that we consider the Ockendon reports in order to know what 00:35:28.369 --> 00:35:33.559 to go on with I think that was a very complacent answer it's very clear from 00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:38.119 the Ockendon report that the issues which were identified when the health 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:42.319 board was put into special measures and not being addressed and I quote from the 00:35:42.319 --> 00:35:45.109 one of the reasons that the health board has been putting special measures the 00:35:45.109 --> 00:35:49.250 health board must implement must implement governance and assurance 00:35:49.250 --> 00:35:52.039 actions which have been highlighted in a series of reports including the Wales 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.920 Audit Office and healthcare Inspectorate Wales and a review carried out by a 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:58.789 monoid the Don Ockendon report makes it absolutely clear that those things have 00:35:58.789 --> 00:36:02.509 not been fully implemented and yet the man who's responsible for the oversight 00:36:02.509 --> 00:36:06.349 and accountability arrangements of these special measures who sat on the your 00:36:06.349 --> 00:36:10.910 front row in your cabinet around that cabinet table who is responsible for the 00:36:10.910 --> 00:36:14.210 failure is in his post don't you agree with me that 00:36:14.210 --> 00:36:17.720 there needs to be an apology from the cabinet secretary to the people of North 00:36:17.720 --> 00:36:22.250 Wales and to the foul families of the tower van patients who were failed by 00:36:22.250 --> 00:36:26.690 your government in terms of turning this situation around and will you accept 00:36:26.690 --> 00:36:30.200 that given that we don't have any confidence in your health secretary to 00:36:30.200 --> 00:36:35.390 turn the situation around that he ought to go and go now oh dear oh do you 00:36:35.390 --> 00:36:38.750 standing for the leadership as well I mean really we have a report that was 00:36:38.750 --> 00:36:41.869 published last week we don't have a chance to respond to it yet a puff the 00:36:41.869 --> 00:36:45.530 account the Conservative Party these responses can cover in a few days it's a 00:36:45.530 --> 00:36:49.460 500-page report I wonder if they're actually read the report but are 50 00:36:49.460 --> 00:36:53.630 pages of an executive summary and it is right to say the cabinet secretary will 00:36:53.630 --> 00:36:57.890 need to respond to that report which he will do this afternoon this is all about 00:36:57.890 --> 00:37:03.940 improving patient experience not about scoring political points Michelle Brown 00:37:07.089 --> 00:37:12.619 creation of the Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board well because we 00:37:12.619 --> 00:37:15.140 know that there were enormous problems in the Health Board those problems are 00:37:15.140 --> 00:37:18.470 not yet resolved and that has to be accepted there has been some progress 00:37:18.470 --> 00:37:22.640 but it's reports such as Ockendon to provide us with the ability to identify 00:37:22.640 --> 00:37:25.910 the challenges more closely and ensure the health board then meets those 00:37:25.910 --> 00:37:30.890 challenges question where dialogue question six tonight thank you Kevin 00:37:30.890 --> 00:37:33.880 will the first minister make a statement on the provision of nighttime 00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:39.560 domiciliary care local authorities are responsible for assessing an 00:37:39.560 --> 00:37:44.150 individual's needs for can support including any nighttime domiciliary care 00:37:44.150 --> 00:37:48.980 required and for subsequently meeting those needs through a care and support 00:37:48.980 --> 00:37:54.050 plan thank you very much for that response you know some important work in 00:37:54.050 --> 00:37:59.030 analyzing the provision or rather the lack of provision of nighttime domicile 00:37:59.030 --> 00:38:03.830 care in Wales unfortunely eight out of the 22 local authorities actually 00:38:03.830 --> 00:38:07.730 provided figures in terms of the number of adults receiving nighttime Thomas 00:38:07.730 --> 00:38:12.470 free care of those local authorities that could provide figures we know that 00:38:12.470 --> 00:38:16.790 only one point nine two percent of care and support assessments led to nighttime 00:38:16.790 --> 00:38:22.460 Domus Aurea care and the two percent of assessments led to nighttime Domus Aurea 00:38:22.460 --> 00:38:28.010 care with wide variations between local authorities so what therefore is 00:38:28.010 --> 00:38:31.280 your government going to do to tack to the lack of data collection the first 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:35.990 place and more importantly the lack of consistency and provision in terms of 00:38:35.990 --> 00:38:40.339 nighttime support to our most vulnerable citizens well we've already taken action 00:38:40.339 --> 00:38:43.789 to improve the terms and conditions of the workforce we provided 19 million 00:38:43.789 --> 00:38:46.190 pounds of recurrent funding to local authorities for them to work with 00:38:46.190 --> 00:38:50.569 providers to further support the workforce we're aware that a number of 00:38:50.569 --> 00:38:55.069 authorities use part of that funding to pay a higher rate for sleeping cover we 00:38:55.069 --> 00:38:58.549 will of course continue to work using for example social services and 00:38:58.549 --> 00:39:01.970 well-being act with the local authorities in order to make sure the 00:39:01.970 --> 00:39:05.510 local authorities understand their duties and to create greater consistency 00:39:05.510 --> 00:39:10.240 so a difficult course to understand on an individual basis whether somebody is 00:39:10.240 --> 00:39:16.760 it has been it has been assessed or not for nighttime domiciliary care but it's 00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.160 usually important the local authorities are flexible enough in their 00:39:19.160 --> 00:39:22.130 interpretation of the regulations and their assessments to make sure that 00:39:22.130 --> 00:39:27.890 people get the care that they need well I think those figures just highlight the 00:39:27.890 --> 00:39:32.150 critical role of unpaid carers in overnight care for people within their 00:39:32.150 --> 00:39:36.170 family usually and obviously in those circumstances it's very often mental 00:39:36.170 --> 00:39:39.349 health care and a traditional domiciliary care is it's not appropriate 00:39:39.349 --> 00:39:43.490 anyway and you remember that the worst conservatives launched a policy last 00:39:43.490 --> 00:39:48.020 year last month to give grants to young adult carers to help them stay in 00:39:48.020 --> 00:39:52.549 education post 16 partly on the basis that it needed to be recognised of 00:39:52.549 --> 00:39:57.079 carers allowance should be payable to two of those individuals taking into 00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:00.170 account their overnight care and responsibilities as part of their I was 00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:04.520 for responsive for eligibility can you give us some steer on whether this 00:40:04.520 --> 00:40:07.880 policy is going to be considered by the advisory body that's supporting the 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:11.690 minister who's at the moment trying to get together some policies to support 00:40:11.690 --> 00:40:17.359 carers well there is no there's nothing that is not on the table as far as 00:40:17.359 --> 00:40:21.829 future policies are concerned there is the question of course of identifying 00:40:21.829 --> 00:40:24.799 the resources in order to to do that but also we do have the education 00:40:24.799 --> 00:40:27.980 Maintenance Allowance say in in Wales which I suspect would apply to 00:40:27.980 --> 00:40:33.349 potentially to too many carers but of course if there are other proposals that 00:40:33.349 --> 00:40:37.880 come forward we will of course look at them question scythe Josh and Sam Joyce 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:39.780 watts and will the first minister make a 00:40:39.780 --> 00:40:43.830 statement on the accessibility of children's play areas well all children 00:40:43.830 --> 00:40:46.980 benefit from being outside interacting with an environment and developing 00:40:46.980 --> 00:40:51.360 through play statutory guidance directs local authorities working with partners 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.920 to consider the diverse needs of all children and young people in their area 00:40:54.920 --> 00:41:00.780 Thank You First Minister but I'm sure that anyone would be moved by the story 00:41:00.780 --> 00:41:06.600 that broke last week of a nature of boy Kobi Barrow who helped design a park 00:41:06.600 --> 00:41:12.210 which could be used by both able-body and disabled children and he did that in 00:41:12.210 --> 00:41:18.570 memory of his best friend Breanna who sadly passed away in 2016 00:41:18.570 --> 00:41:25.050 emerged that Rihanna had to travel for three hours from her home to play in a 00:41:25.050 --> 00:41:31.140 playground that had suitable equipment and he wanted to rectify that for the 00:41:31.140 --> 00:41:37.200 other children who lived more locally First Minister what steps are the Welsh 00:41:37.200 --> 00:41:43.230 government taking to ensure that playgrounds in Wales have inclusive play 00:41:43.230 --> 00:41:49.260 equipment for children and how are we going to monitor progress of that 00:41:49.260 --> 00:41:53.730 throughout Wales well the stuttery guidance directs local 00:41:53.730 --> 00:41:56.790 authorities to consider the diverse needs of all children and young people 00:41:56.790 --> 00:42:01.410 in their area including those with disabilities I know that in April the 00:42:01.410 --> 00:42:04.410 Minister for children all the people in social care visited Auckland's play area 00:42:04.410 --> 00:42:08.790 in our CT which is a good example of an accessible play area it shows what can 00:42:08.790 --> 00:42:13.560 be achieved in May local authorities were reminded of the expectation from 00:42:13.560 --> 00:42:17.130 two local authority to develop a clearly identified play section on their 00:42:17.130 --> 00:42:20.430 websites the information should be made available in a way that supports 00:42:20.430 --> 00:42:24.510 children and families to know what's available their local areas and should 00:42:24.510 --> 00:42:27.300 also include actions that local authorities proposed to take to achieve 00:42:27.300 --> 00:42:32.370 sufficiency and improve inclusive play opportunities I can also say that the 00:42:32.370 --> 00:42:36.690 government Wales snap camera sustainable play project trained play workers in 00:42:36.690 --> 00:42:40.350 disability awareness and inclusion and that was extremely successful in 00:42:40.350 --> 00:42:46.380 engaging disabled people in outdoor play Angela burns 00:42:46.380 --> 00:42:50.250 but of course you hit on the wordplay and you said that everybody should have 00:42:50.250 --> 00:42:54.510 access to be able to play especially young children we talk in this place a 00:42:54.510 --> 00:42:59.130 lot about obesity about making our kids healthy and fit and active and all the 00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:02.790 rest of it and yet First Minister what I'd be interested to know is what is 00:43:02.790 --> 00:43:07.410 your government doing your government born here in Wales doing to ensure that 00:43:07.410 --> 00:43:13.980 the planning system in Wales takes do regard of a necessity to have safe 00:43:13.980 --> 00:43:18.930 accessible play areas close to homes that are currently being built because 00:43:18.930 --> 00:43:22.500 too many times you get to a situation where the developer will actually 00:43:22.500 --> 00:43:27.059 perhaps do through the use of a 106 agreement or something will put aside an 00:43:27.059 --> 00:43:31.079 area for a play area but it happens to be the other side of a busy main road or 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:35.099 it happens to be the other side of the village where kids can't access it in 00:43:35.099 --> 00:43:39.270 the old days we used to put our play areas near our houses so the parent at 00:43:39.270 --> 00:43:43.140 home will the carer could look out and just check the kid was still safe and 00:43:43.140 --> 00:43:48.300 out there playing we can't do this now and I've seen planners use the pavement 00:43:48.300 --> 00:43:52.710 the green grass by the sides of payments as part of the square footage to add to 00:43:52.710 --> 00:43:57.630 the so called playing area available in a housing development how can we stop 00:43:57.630 --> 00:44:02.130 that how can we make safe play areas that small kids can access all the time 00:44:02.130 --> 00:44:05.579 where people can watch them and know that they are truly truly protected 00:44:05.579 --> 00:44:09.180 well the effective planning I thought you'll do just that I've seen it happen 00:44:09.180 --> 00:44:13.950 in my own authority my play areas are accessible on new housing estates and 00:44:13.950 --> 00:44:17.160 very accessible there's no reason why that can't be emulated by authorities 00:44:17.160 --> 00:44:21.270 elsewhere through the use of section 106 agreements and through the use of 00:44:21.270 --> 00:44:26.670 planners ensuring that play areas are available for a new residence on newer 00:44:26.670 --> 00:44:29.970 development so there is responsibility and local authorities and their planners 00:44:29.970 --> 00:44:32.970 to make sure they follow the best practice that I've seen elsewhere in 00:44:32.970 --> 00:44:38.640 Wales Kristian oily question 8ly waters the Welsh government have to introduce a 00:44:38.640 --> 00:44:44.069 default 20 mile an hour speed limit in the urban areas better the comprehensive 00:44:44.069 --> 00:44:48.089 reviews implemented schools on only a trunk roads and we have a multi-year 00:44:48.089 --> 00:44:52.680 program to introduce part-time 20 per our limits in those locations we 00:44:52.680 --> 00:44:55.890 also provide funding for local authorities to implement 20 mile per 00:44:55.890 --> 00:45:00.840 hour zones and limits to the road safety and safe routes in communities grants we 00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.620 have also commissioned dr. Adrian Davis to carry out an evidence review on the 00:45:04.620 --> 00:45:08.700 20 mile an hour limits to inform any future policy development that review 00:45:08.700 --> 00:45:13.830 will be concluded in August and that will show us at what the direction Thank 00:45:13.830 --> 00:45:16.740 You First Minister because two years ago Public Health Wales did produce some 00:45:16.740 --> 00:45:21.150 research which showed that the default 20 mile an hour speed limit would result 00:45:21.150 --> 00:45:27.450 in reduction in road traffic casualties a reduction in carbon and nitrogen oxide 00:45:27.450 --> 00:45:32.700 emissions in residential areas a decrease in noise an increase in active 00:45:32.700 --> 00:45:38.340 travel community cohesion and more spending in local shops put simply it 00:45:38.340 --> 00:45:41.880 would achieve all the national goals set out in the world being in future 00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:46.650 generations act now having said that we'd introduced 21 Ozone's once we had 00:45:46.650 --> 00:45:50.070 the powers now we have the powers it does seem that we are waiting for the 00:45:50.070 --> 00:45:53.940 Department of Transport in London to complete some further research before we 00:45:53.940 --> 00:45:57.540 before we go ahead when the First Minister agree that the evidence is 00:45:57.540 --> 00:46:02.490 clear and consistent and we should now get on with it well I mean let's let's 00:46:02.490 --> 00:46:07.760 wait to see what the review that says we're not dependent on what the DFT does 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.330 what their work is of interest to us of course but we have our own review once 00:46:12.330 --> 00:46:15.600 that's published then of course further decisions can be taken us to then 00:46:15.600 --> 00:46:19.190 whether or not we introduce a comprehensive - and in my own element 00:46:19.190 --> 00:46:25.950 David mouthing Minister this has been examined reveal endlessly across Europe 00:46:25.950 --> 00:46:32.670 and very many countries now have a 20 mile an hour limit or 30 kilometers in 00:46:32.670 --> 00:46:37.560 their in their measures can I commend Cardiff council for just getting on with 00:46:37.560 --> 00:46:42.150 this and I welcome the local campaigns that are now pushing us like the one in 00:46:42.150 --> 00:46:47.460 sully it should be default and the motorist should not be king in terms of 00:46:47.460 --> 00:46:51.420 who can go out and enjoy the outside environment when we drive cars we have 00:46:51.420 --> 00:46:55.830 to be responsible for that and the pedestrian needs greater protection and 00:46:55.830 --> 00:46:59.300 we need to shift to more active forms of travel 00:46:59.300 --> 00:47:03.619 it's impossible to argue with him when he puts it that way and he is right to 00:47:03.619 --> 00:47:08.180 say that active consideration will be given to a 20 mile per hour speed limit 00:47:08.180 --> 00:47:11.810 he's also like to say that we want to encourage more people to other forms of 00:47:11.810 --> 00:47:15.050 transport as precisely as I outlined earlier on myself and what we're looking 00:47:15.050 --> 00:47:23.360 to do Simon Thomas well this is a third party getting up to 00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:27.950 support 20 miles per hour as the default in our towns and villages when I went to 00:47:27.950 --> 00:47:34.490 primary school 90% of children walk back and forth to primary schools alone now 00:47:34.490 --> 00:47:40.460 only 25% traveled to school to primary school in that way that's because the 00:47:40.460 --> 00:47:46.760 car has come to dominate our urban landscape in a way that isn't natural 00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:54.800 and doesn't allow natural play or health so will you at least empower local 00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:01.100 authorities now to introduce these zones without any barrier put in place by the 00:48:01.100 --> 00:48:06.369 Welsh Government well we are providing funding to local authorities to ensure 00:48:06.369 --> 00:48:11.960 that there are 20 miles per hour zones that already and people see them across 00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:16.970 Wales it's not a legal problem but a financial one they need to know that the 00:48:16.970 --> 00:48:19.850 funding is available and that's why there's a grant available to ensure that 00:48:19.850 --> 00:48:26.500 these zones can move forward we need up Thank You First Minister the next item